# Privately sending payments while offline with BOLT12

**URL:** <https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/privately-sending-payments-while-offline-with-bolt12/1134>\
**Category:** Protocol Design\
**Tags:** lightning\
**Created:** [September 14, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/privately-sending-payments-while-offline-with-bolt12/1134 "2024-09-14T07:01:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![t-bast](https://delvingbitcoin.org/user_avatar/delvingbitcoin.org/t-bast/32/98_2.png) [@t-bast](https://delvingbitcoin.org/u/t-bast)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 8:13am UTC](https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/privately-sending-payments-while-offline-with-bolt12/1134/4 "2024-09-17T08:13:05Z")

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> [@ZmnSCPxj](#):
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> Have some standard by which a remote control can talk to a high-uptime home node via BOLT8.

That was exactly the goal of [bLIP-0028: Paratonnerre by t-bast · Pull Request #28 · lightning/blips · GitHub](https://github.com/lightning/blips/pull/28), which can provide good security by pairing your remote node with a hardware wallet (e.g. Ledger or Coldcard). I still thinks it would be very useful to standardize the control messages in this bLIP.

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